So far this seems to be the thrust of the DOJ story.
- Eric Holder’s Department of Justice got caught snooping on reporters in two separate cases.
- As to the AP case, Eric Holder recused himself from the AP case because he was being personally investigated by the FBI as a potential suspect.
- When he says he recused himself he means he told one person he recused himself. It is unclear if any memoranda or writings were made memorializing this recusal.
- Eric Holder testifies to Congress that “[i]n regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material. This is not something I’ve ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy.”
- The DOJ just happened to swear to a federal judge that they had probable cause to believe James Rosen, a Fox News reporter, had violated the Espionage Act of 1917. One of the subsections of that act criminalizes the disclosure of confidential materials. Eric Holder approved the request made by the DOJ to the federal judge requesting a secret warrant.
- The administration wants you to believe that the following acts do not constitute even a discussion of a potential prosecution of a member of the press: 1 swearing to a federal judge that the United States Government has probable cause to believe that a reporter committed a federal crime punishable by ten years in prison; and 2 swearing to the same judge that the DOJ needs a warrant to look at said reporters personal and work emails because of this possible criminal violation; and 3 swearing to the federal judge that the DOJ understands that the federal government not entitled to get a warrant to look at a reporter’s work product unless the DOJ is specifically alleging that they have probable cause to believe that said reporter violated, or is violating, the Espionage Act; and 4 specifically noting that the Privacy Law protects this reporters emails unless there is an accusation that there is probable cause that he is committing, or has committed, such crimes; and 5 telling the judge that, despite sending a letter to Google asking them to preserve the emails, there is a likelihood that the reporter will destroy the emails if he finds out that the DOJ is seeking to see the emails.
- President Obama learns of these facts and pledges to get to the bottom of the situation.
- President Obama’s big idea is to assign Eric Holder to investigate his own actions and those of his department to determine whether new policies need to be put into place to prevent Eric Holder from doing what Eric Holder did in the past.
- Eric Holder then decides to have a meeting with the press to discuss these issues. However, this will be a secret meeting that will be off the record and nothing discussed can be reported on.
- When big news organizations start to call the actions of the administration inappropriate, an advisor leaks the alleged substance of the meetings to the New York Times.
The damage that these actions will do to the true administration of justice will be felt for years to come.
The New York Times decided to delve into whether or not some of the Tea Party groups that were discriminated against nonetheless deserved it. This article is a look at those who got caught up in a discriminatory scheme. The article pushes the notion that some of those who were discriminated against based on their ideology actually deserved the scrutiny.
The true story is that people were discriminated against. The story is not that some of those that were discriminated against actually deserved the extra scrutiny.
It reminds me of the controversial “stop and frisk” program initiated by the New York City Police Department. The New York Times has discussed this policy in its reporting and on its editorial page. In the non-editorial article cited here, J. David Goodman specifically included in his report the allegation by Mayor Bloomberg that the paper ignores the stories of those whom the policy saved or caught.
It seems to me that the New York Times is fairly hoisted upon its own petard. In the IRS case they look at the victims of profiling and say that some deserved extra scrutiny irregardless of the discrimination. In the “stop and frisk” story they refuse to look at those who were profiled and deserved the police attention irregardless of the discrimination.
I wish that the New York Times would universally accept that arguments in favor of discrimination based on the effectiveness of the discrimination must fail. The New York Times does not accept the argument for race based discrimination and it should not, but it does, accept the argument for ideology based discrimination.
What I think this really shows, at its core, is the ideological filters at the paper. They don’t treat claims of discrimination uniformly. If there is a claim of race discrimination it is treated differently than if there is a claim of ideological discrimination.
As a side note, some may argue that the reporting on the specific IRS groups that claim discriminatory behavior by the government is merely good reporting. They could argue that this type of reporting is merely showing all sides of what has transpired. This could be acceptable if that same standard was used in other arenas such as in the “stop and frisk” arena. As I always say, what is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander.
I know, I know nobody warned about Democrat overreach during Abu Ghraib. The problem is that the Obama Administration is deft at information control. Remember the Obama birth certificate issue? Obama watched as many people created theories about his birth. He knew they were wrong, but instead of squashing this he allowed it to fester and grow. Then he put out the document and labelled all republicans as conspiracy theorists. It is working well for him currently as he argues that the republican response to the scandals in Washington are nothing more than politics and conspiracy theorists.
The republicans need to remember this and wait until the facts are out. Overreach is going to be the mantra. Barack Obama controls the information. The mainstream media will do everything in their power to point out every claim by republicans that ends up being incorrect.
The boy who cried wolf is instructive. When it is real it will be that much harder to convince America. Get to the bottom first, then lay blame. The President will easily make you look bad later if the facts don’t add up to speculation. That is not necessarily fair. The mainstream media will be happy to help him out. This will also be good for you when a republican is in charge and a scandal happens.
I keep hearing that the real scandal involving the IRS is that there are these groups out there speaking without disclosing their names. The real scandal is groups that are not paying taxes and speaking about politics.
This is disgusting. We have a little thing called freedom of speech. Thomas Payne’s Common Sense was initially published anonymously. Anonymous speech scares the heck out of the government. It erodes their power. It is a good for the people. Anyone who says the real problem is untaxed, anonymous speech is pushing a very scary argument. When people hear anonymous speech than can discount it because they aren’t allowed to judge the reliability of the speaker. The government has decided, in the name of free and fair elections, that they can ultimately restrict how one speaks. This is not the governments role.
David Gregory is a good journalist. This can be seen when he is interviewing republicans. David Gregory is a third-rate hack journalist. This can be seen when he is interviewing White House staff like Dan Pfieffer.
Dan Pfieffer was asked about all three current scandals. He was allowed to give an answer and some follow up questions were asked to elucidate the points made. He was barely challenged or pushed. Then Senator McConnell was up. David Gregory was pulling quotes from 1987. He was combative. He didn’t allow any explanation go unquestioned.
When interviewing republicans Mr. Gregory looked like Joe Montana leading his press team down the field. When interviewing Dan Pfieffer he looked like Al Bundy reminiscing about his high school football days.
We should realize that politics drives news coverage. It is inevitable. If anybody told you Fox News or MSNBC didn’t push a certain ideology then you would laugh. Why then does NBC, CBS, and ABC get a pass? They push themselves as non-partisan watchdogs. It is obvious that this is not true. They are more ideologically receptive to liberal arguments. That is who they are. That is life. The disservice they are doing is when they try to hide this. I know when watching Fox News and MSNBC to discount what they say based on their ideology. When watching NBC, CBS, and ABC we have to guess at to what part ideology plays. That is a problem. This is why people question when the heads of these news divisions are related to people high up in the administration.
It is quite disheartening to watch this IRS scandal unfold. We see the defense by the government taking shape. Depending on where you sit in the executive branch effects the given excuse. Let’s start at the at the lowest level and work our way up. The NYTimes wrote a good article basically laying out the ineptitude defense. Let us assume that this defense holds true and it was just some bumbling employees in Cincinnati that somehow don’t realize that targeting groups based on their ideology is wrong. (Of course it could go up to the top, but we don’t know yet.)
At a minimum we have to hire better people. If these units are staffed by incompetents then they need to be dismissed. Also, it is obvious that there is no managerial control. A group can target an ideology for years, through an election, and nobody puts a halt to it.
Furthermore, if this defense works then we have a larger problem. We have a giant unaccountable bureaucracy. We see that the bureaucracy can violate your rights. They can target you based on ideology. When this happens the Presidents claims that he is not responsible because the IRS is independent. I understand the independence was created due to political interference, but it also rids the executive of accountability for its own agencies.
We have three branches of government: executive, legislative, and judicial. Apparently our government has created a fourth branch: bureaucracy. It is not accountable to anyone. The President has the temerity to defend his white house by stating that he had no idea until the newspapers reported the story. Our Constitution set up not just a system of government but a system of accountability. It was open and honest so the people could make informed decisions on whom they wanted to elect. These giant bureaucracies, the IRS is just one of them, threaten our freedoms.
Also, as a side note, everybody says the President is angry and looking to make sure this does not happen again. How can he say that when he could not stop the first one? Remember, he was allegedly a bystander by law.